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Revelations....!!
Feb 17, 2008 | 9:31 AM
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The Prophesied End-Time Revealed.

2008 - God's Final Witness

From now until the latter part of 2008, many prophecies are going to begin to be fulfilled, especially the Seven Thunders of the Book of Revelation, which the apostle John saw but was restricted from recording. Those thunders are revealed in this book, as well as detailed accounts of the final three and one-half years of man's self-rule on earth, which are recorded in the account of the Seventh Seal of Revelation.

Some of these prophecies concern the demise of the United States over the next year, which will be followed by man's final world war. This last war will be the result of clashing religions and the governments they sway. Billions will die! This time will far exceed even the very worst times in all human history.

As these events unfold, the world will increasingly become aware of the authenticity of the words in this book and realize that Ronald Weinland has been sent by God as His end-time prophet.

This book is primarily directed to the people of the three major religions of the world (Islam, Judaism and Christianity), whose roots are in the God of Abraham. Ronald Weinland has been sent to all three.

I really don't know if I would want to read this book or not..... I have read Revelations several times and have never been able to understand it....... If you have four people explain one passage you will get four different explanations.......

Does anybody really understand Revelations.....??

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mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 9:51 AM

The 1,000 YEAR issue has been one of the most abused and misunderstood passages in Scripture. It must be noted that Revelation 20 is the only place in the Bible a l,000 year reign is mentioned. So, all the information in the Bible on the 1,000 year reign is here. There is NO, absolutely NO room in Scripture for a pre or post-millennial point of view of the return of Christ. This time factor (1,000 years) has been ripped out of context and abused.
jeanette read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 10:20 AM

I only hope it will be quick and painless,When it happens.Plus I don't want to be the only person left.I have never read the books.But if it happens not much we can do about it.People will always be divided on everything.
Cuteypops read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 10:43 AM

I understand Revelations, but I see it as written by man. The original story may have been told by one of the disiples, but over time i'm sure the story has changed. Just like if you play pass the message. You start off with the original message, but by the time is gets to the last person the message is completely changed. This how I see the Bible. I do not see it happening as of right now. They have always had a problem figuring out the dates in the Bible. When it happens it will happen, and if you are still alive you had better say the Lord is your Savior or you will not be saved. Then you will really be living in Hell on earth.
mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 11:29 AM

Cutey if you can understand Revelations you should have been a College Professor.... I am about to undertake my third try at trying to understand just some of it......

Some read about the mysterious “four horsemen” (Rev. 6:2-8) and speculate as to what they represent.
Deeper in the book are frightening descriptions of the sun becoming “black as sackcloth,” the moon “red as blood” and the “stars of heaven” falling to the earth. What do these heavenly signs mean?
Later, Revelation chapter 9 depicts modern machinery of war, described as “locusts…like unto horses prepared unto battle,” “wings…as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle,” and “tails like unto scorpions, and…stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.”
lilmomma28 read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 11:41 AM

To my understanding of the book of Revelations it is a look into the world coming to an end. I have also read this book several times. From what I understand of it. It is the end of the world and this book talks about the "signs" of that happening. It talks about wars, not being able to tell season from season, bugs that we never heard of, etc....
The sun and the moon stuff you talk about here, to me it says that this is what is going to happen. The world will become dark. The stars of heaven falling to earth tells me that there are gonna be stars or comments or something that is going to hit earth. JMO!!! The book of Revelations is supposed to be in the future so to speak.... Good luck on interpreting everything LOL!
kurkel read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 1:46 PM

OK...I just agreed to go in and work (they are shortstaffed at the hospital....can you imagine that? lol....) Revelation is an awesome book which I just absolutely love. And I love discussing it...but it does take some time. There is alot of symbolism...alot of reperesentation of the 12 tribes of Israel (that is why the 12 lampstands etc)...ea of which mean something different. There are alot of teachings on Revelation...some good some not so good...
What is this book? Who is it written by and is it factual? or fiction...? Alot of Christian fiction books are based on or use alot of revelation and the end times....
OK that is all i have time for now...I will try to get back on tonight. Have to go and get ready for work! Bye all....
kurkel read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 1:48 PM

sorry pops...I like and respect you but I dont agree with you about the bible. But I also wont argue about it either b/c that never helps anyone. I will be willing to give what I know and what I have studied if anyone is interested otherwise I will just keep my mouth closed.....thanks all...talk to you soon!
Cuteypops read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 2:18 PM

Well thats my opinion and it is how I feel. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but if you were even going to bring out the point that you disagree. Why didn't you debate it? Otherwise like you said you should have kept your mouth shut. Instead of taking the time to point me out. jmo
Cuteypops read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 2:48 PM

Well Mr. Wild I do have a degree in education. The 4 horsemen are the 4 evils that will come. Conquest rides a white horse, war a red horse, famine a black horse, plague a pale horse. The moon, sun, and stars is basically saying there will be complete darkness, and the locusts ect. are like lilmomma stated.
mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 5:59 PM

Where I might agree that One of the Horsemenmight represent all evil I don't agree with 4 evils for there are closer to 400...

This is what I stated in the beginning..... 4 people will come up with 4 different interpretations of these chapters....


It is the greatest story ever told....
mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 6:02 PM

Kelly I don't know much about this book... I have read a little on the internet..... I'm not sure if I want to read it yet or not.... It seems that someone had a similiar book refering to 2006 as the end of time.....
mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 7:26 PM

Some Christian scholars do not interpret Revelation as prophecy of future events so much as a revealing of God's presence in the current events of the first century[citation needed].

In this sense the white horseman is a symbol for a conquering force from without. This is symbolized using the image of the feared Parthian mounted archer on his white horse and given the crown of a conqueror. The red rider who takes peace from the earth is the civil strife that ended the pax romana. The black rider is the famine that follows anytime there is foreign invasion or civil war. The final rider is the death that accompanies conflict and famine and the pestilence that springs up in the aftermath of these other tragedies.

While these images, and especially the Parthians, are specific to the Roman Empire of the early Christian era, there is a universality about them. Each new century, Christian interpreters see ways in which the horsemen, and Revelation in general, speaks to contemporary events. Some who believe Revelation applies to modern times can interpret the horses based on various ways their colours are used. Red, for example, often represents Communism, while Black has been used as a symbol of Capitalism. Pastor Irvin Baxter Jr. of Endtime Ministries espouses such a belief.[1]
mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 7:27 PM

Not all interpretations agree that the horsemen are associated with contemporary events; one interpretation suggests that the horseman are each associated with one of the first, four opened seals. [2] The white horse represents the first seal in which the city of Enoch[3] is established in righteous conquest. The red horse represents the second seal in which bloodshed and wickedness reigns. The black horse represents the third seal in which famine, plague, and pestilence take hold of the world. The pale horse represents a time of escalated death and destruction. Further interpretation by scholars suggests that each horse represents a given time: the time of Enoch, the time of Noah, the time of Abraham, and the time of Christ.

one interpretation is that the first horseman is the antichrist who instills fear and hatred in mankind, the second horseman is the war that would arise because of the hatred, the third horseman to be the famine and sickliness that comes about after the earths resources are depleted by war, and then finally death which is the result of the war and famine
lsmlp read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 7:49 PM

I suggest you read the Left Behind books. I have read them all. They are easy to read, follow the bible pretty closely and will help you understand enough of it to know what you need to do. I don't agree with EVERYTHING in it, but they have done a great job!

They made movies from these books recently, but they don't follow the books and they are no where near as good as the books.

They have even made a "kids" version of these Left Behind books. I have read several of these and they are just as good only simpler put.

My pastor has said in the past that he gets a lot of complaint when he preaches on Revelations. Mostly because people don't like to hear about bad things. They think they should come away from worship feeling happy-go-lucky and full of sunshine. Unfortunately, we need to hear it all...the good, the bad, and the ugly!
kurkel read my blog view my photos
Feb 17, 2008 | 11:25 PM

wow pops sorry didnt mean to hit the sensitivity button that was why I said I liked and respected you. I dont agree and I dont want to debate the bible on line typing back and forth...sorry if I offended you , I certainly did not mean to. I would be more than glad to discuss it with you and why I believe it to be the truth and factual the very breath of God...that it is alive and speaks to me whenever I read it. That it fills me with peace and shows me Gods will. That out of ALL the books written over the centuries it is the one that has stood the test of time and that the places, the people the events can all be traced back in history. And so much more....
Again I apologize if I offended you as that was never my intentions....just the opposite.
dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Feb 18, 2008 | 8:56 AM

Cutey, I believe the Dead Sea Scrolls give testimony to the accuracy of the copied scriptures, when everything was done by hand, by the scribes, and monks, their words match with the scrolls dated to the 1st. century. The church that presented the New Testament to the world over the years from Christ's death until 'closing' the canon of scripture about 395 AD always viewed the book of Revelations as a view of the Heavenly Liturgy, the worship of God, in His Presence. The Liturgy of the Catholic Mass follows the outline presented by John.
The stars falling from the heavens have always represented the fall from grace of Satan and his followers.
After 1500 years of understanding this book the Protestants decided it couldn't be anything ca-ca-ca-catholic so they've all come up with these fantastic and frightening senarios, that are just pathetic. Go back to the source and find how these things began, rather than be swept up in a New and Improved
Revelation, that is neither a revelation or inspired or given by someone sent from God, (anymore or less than the any us are sent from God).
Read Scott Hahn's 'The Lamb's Supper' or visit his website- salvationhistory.com
frenchmills read my blog view my photos
Feb 18, 2008 | 10:33 AM

the end of the world has been predicted almost ever since the Book of Revelation was written and canonized.

I believed one line of thought that give a target date of around 1976. Didn't happen.

We have a couple of things happening, though in this book. First thing: in the very first chapter, it speaks about "things that must shortly come to pass", meaning, of course, very soon after the book is written. To my mind, this exempts anything after about ten years after the writing of the book.

And another thing, the only time that Antichrist is mentioned is in John's epistles, where again the reference is to the time of the writing.

We keep our minds set on the present moment and the future will take care of itself. Jesus said this and I believe it and live it.
frenchmills read my blog view my photos
Feb 18, 2008 | 10:41 AM

daed seas scrolls -- they differ somewhat from what we read in our Old Testament, and agree more with other Jewish Torahs than with the one used in the OT.

Revelation is totally metaphor, written in a sort of code for obvious reasons, so that Romans wouldn't intercept and destroy mainly. If you compare it to the situation at the time, you should see almost an exact match. Its intention is to give hope to its recipients, ergo the New Jerusalem and the Sea of Glass surrounding the throne with the 144 k and innumerable multitude surrounding.
frenchmills read my blog view my photos
Feb 18, 2008 | 10:42 AM

that's DEAD SEA SCROLLS, not daed seas scrolls
asmerelda read my blog view my photos
Feb 18, 2008 | 7:12 PM

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54, retired From Chrysler. Substitute school teacher, sell Real Estate and also D J and host Karaoke shows. Love to work out and play volleyball. Back surgery in 95 was a major setback, but have recently regained my competitive bowling skills. I see things in a third dimension.

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