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Why would someone running for office call themself a Catholic when they don't believe in the teachings of that church? Could it be they only want that bock of votes?
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SoSiouxMe read my blog
Sep 30, 2008 | 11:33 PM

Many Catholics don't believe in all the teachings of their church, but they still have the right to call themselves Catholic.

Hopefully, Catholics aren't so narrow-minded that they would be persuaded to vote for someone based on their profession of being Catholic. But if they were inclined to vote that way, they wouldn't vote for a Catholic that didn't adhere to the teachings of the church. So if that's a strategy to get the Catholic vote, it's a pretty poor one.

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2008 | 9:04 AM

Your right SoSouixMe, however I find too often that there are professed Catholics, who have fallen away from the Church in the same manner as McCaskill, Pelosi, Kennedy, & Biden, to be pro-abortion.
Sarah Palin was said to have been baptized Catholic, and now profeesses a faith other than that, but at least she lives according to it's teachings as much as anyone can.

jsage read my blog
Oct 1, 2008 | 3:52 PM

The truth is if you don't believe in all the teachings of the Catholic church you or not a Catholic so you don't have the right to call yourself one.

SoSiouxMe read my blog
Oct 1, 2008 | 10:10 PM

I have a lot of Catholic friends and relatives that would argue to the death on that one.

Besides, the teachings of the Catholic church change (i.e. Vatican I and Vatican II), so when that happens, are Catholics supposed to dig their heels in and refuse to change their beliefs? What happens to the beliefs of yesterday? Were they wrong? Or are they supposed to immediately change their beliefs without giving yesterday's beliefs a thought?

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2008 | 7:59 AM

So SoiuxMe, None of the doctrinal beliefs of the Catholic Church have changed in 2000 years, the Councils you point to both led to much confusion over the the proper way to express our beliefs, and some liberal-leaning well-meaning people went overboard with personal agenda to change the Church.
For instance though it was stated that eating meat on Fridays(a day of Penance, to remember the crucifixtion), was no longer necessary, it was often blown out of proportion to where some even said Penance was no longer necessary.
All Vatican II really did was turn the priest around to face the congregation, and have him speak in English(or the local vernacular), and re-arrge the furniture, many thought they could take out the kneelers, and this just isn't so.
But the Church does teach that once you are a Catholic you are always a Catholic unless you send them a statement that effectively, excommunicates yourself and denies the teachings of the Church. So if a fallen away Catholic ever wants to come back, all he has to do is go to confession, and make a thorough, general confession, with intent to repent and turn away from sin, and try to start fresh with Christ's help and forgiveness.

jsage read my blog
Oct 2, 2008 | 8:32 AM

I guess the question could be if you don't believe in the teaching of a church why would you want to be a member?

SoSiouxMe read my blog
Oct 2, 2008 | 9:34 AM

to get to Heaven, of course.

If you're trying to make a political comparison, there are a lot of people that call themselves Republican or Democrat but don't believe in all the "doctrines" of their party. There are a lot of pro-life Democrats that don't believe in gay marriage, and there are a lot of pro-abortion Republicans, and some of them are gay.

jsage read my blog
Oct 2, 2008 | 9:57 AM

The Catholic church teaches that if you break the laws of the church and don't get forgivness before you die you won't get to heaven. So if you don't believe in the teaching why join.

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