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I am in favor of photo ID. I think it would be especially useful in preventing voter fraud. Forty years ago when license fee offices charged forty cents and state charges covered the cost the state had to pay it would have worked. Today the cost is much higher and many will chose to trade their right to vote for a gallon of gas. License offices have adequate personnel for the work they do now. Even then we stand in line for long periods.

Recently I volunteered for the MOCHIPS program where a child is photographed, fingered printed, and a description typed all on a computer. The information is transferred to a small CD and given to the parents. As a side note none of the information is kept by the MOCHIP program.

I propose the same type of program but with the information stored on a card similar to a credit card. The equipment would be expensive but there are many organizations that could volunteer workers.

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snoopydad24 read my blog view my photos
May 8, 2008 | 11:17 AM

First off you cannot vote unless your are REGISTERED. I do not see why you can’t get a Photo ID card at the time you register to vote. With the technology we have today the machine and the supplies will be minimal cost to the state. Yes the state pays for the IDs because it is our Constitutional right to be able to vote for our favorite candidate.

Heck the state could even use the same machine as the one used for the driver’s license. Wouldn’t be difficult to change backgrounds for people just getting a photo ID as oppose to a driver’s license.

However I am sure politicians will make this simple act much harder than what it is. As I have said in other blogs about this I have had to show a photo ID where I vote for several years now. What’s the big deal?

Heck I will let the state fingerprint me when I register to vote and the state can keep my fingerprints on file (even though already have my fingerprints when I had to get state and federal background checks to become a teacher). I see other benefits to this besides just voting.

SikUvTheRite read my blog
May 8, 2008 | 11:17 AM

My own mother never had a voter ID.

She also never owned a business, never inherited millions, never inherited 1000 acres of farm land, and never had hangups about personal moral issues like abortion, drugs or alcohol, so she never voted Republican.

Ah, the perfect type of person the Republicans want to eliminate from the ranks of voters!

I'm guessing the Republicans in the Missouri Congress must be simply salivating over the latest decision by the Republican right-wing Supreme Court to allow this poll-tax - er, excuse me, photo ID! Now they can have what they've always wanted! Deny the folks who are least likely to vote for their agenda of selfishness and greed the right to vote!

Knowing as they must that their days are numbered, and that any honest election will see the numbers of Republicans dwindle significantly, this decision came JUST in time to help out with that situation! I mean, the Lord, abortion, and prayer in schools can only go so far - many people are upset about the ECONOMY and the WAR - actual IMPORTANT issues!

So they wouldn't stand a chance!

But now, they can deny them the right to vote because they don't have a drivers license (to drive a car - hmmmm, everybody has a car, don't they?) or work at Boeing of some other large corporation that issues photo IDs (I mean, EVERYBODY works at a fine large corporation, don't they?), or whatever.

I am all for eliminating voter fraud, but since most voter fraud happens behind the scenes (counting, computer issues, etc.) this is going to do nothing but deny certain citizens the right to vote.

jsage read my blog
May 8, 2008 | 12:25 PM

How does making a person have a ID deny someone the right to vote? The biggest voter fraud in the ST.Louis area has been people using other persons names to cast votes. The fact that your mom never started a business didn't mean she didn't have the right to.

bubba-right-wing read my blog view my photos
May 8, 2008 | 3:37 PM

How will Democrats be able to get the bums from the alley to vote now?

SikUvTheRite read my blog
May 8, 2008 | 6:33 PM

I've mentioned it before, bubba, but because your memory retention is about 2 minutes caused by too much Rush Limbaugh for one lifetime, allow me to repeat it again.

The bums from the alley have as much right to vote as you do. You get one vote. They each get one vote.

Got it? Got a problem with it?

Chickenkiller read my blog
May 8, 2008 | 11:20 PM

Sicko - once again your logic is flawed, but I expect that when you're off your medication.

First 'just any photo ID' like a Boeing ID badge is not an acceptable identification. It must be a government issued ID. Drivers License, Passport or Missouri ID or Military ID will do nicely.

Finally, Matt Blunt (the governor who saved this state from the financial disaster created by One Term Bob) has offered to send people to peoples home for free and give them a State ID card if they have no other way of getting one.

Problem solved - no more liberal whining required.

Jaydog read my blog
May 11, 2008 | 7:30 PM

In ILL you can go to any drivers license facility and get a state photo id card for 10.00, and when i was in school 8th grade and up we got a photo id card each year the cost was 5.00 a year it hd our name address age the school name and what grade we were in, don't they still do that.

SikUvTheRite read my blog
May 13, 2008 | 2:55 PM

Hey, I just decided I may be ALL FOR the photo ID.

Just today the Republican Missouri House passed a law that would ban tickets from red-light cameras for those who do NOT have a photo on their drivers license due to RELIGIOUS reasons.

Of course, we know the only two groups of people Republicans represent anymore are the fabulously rich and the religious.

But it occured to me, many religious conservatives maybe don't want their photo on their drivers license for religious reasons!

Therefore, this photo ID law make also disenfranchise the religious! So now I'm all for it!

Of course, something tells me this is a veiled attempt to appease the tiny minority of Muslims in this state, who usually came here rich and want-to-stay-that-way conservative, but they probably don't consitute a very large electorate. I know of no Catholic or Baptist hangups about picture IDs. So unfortunately, it still may not disenfrachise enough of them.

Of course, with the Muslims, Blunt will probably offer to personally come to their home to give them their photo ID for free.

And I wonder how Blunt's folks will go to someone's home to give them an ID when some people don't have homes?

Oh, that's right, those are the ones you don't WANT to vote because if the majority REALLY voted, your fasicst conservatives would never win again till the end of time.

I'd like to see every "bum" in every alley in America vote.

Couldn't be any worse than the rich bums in the White House of Missouri Congress.

Pugman
May 14, 2008 | 1:14 PM

Chickenkiller, “First 'just any photo ID' like a Boeing ID badge is not an acceptable identification. It must be a government issued ID. Drivers License, Passport or Missouri ID or Military ID will do nicely.”

How do you figure, my government issued ID was not good enough for me to write a check at HQ when I was up grading my bathroom! (That’s one reason I no longer shop there.)


I agree with snoopydad24, issue a photo ID at the time you register and then request that you show it before you vote!

And don’t allow that no photo due to RELIGIOUS reasons BS. I have known people that refuse to have their picture taken for RELIGIOUS reasons but have plenty of pictures of themselves (taken by friends & family) in their homes!

snoopydad24 read my blog view my photos
May 14, 2008 | 6:17 PM

No one is denying a person’s right to vote. However in order to vote you have to register to vote. Not a difficult task but the government wants to make sure of two things, one your are at least 18 years old and two you are an American citizen. Even at the time you register you have to prove who you say you are thru either a birth certificate or a driver’s license.

But I guess the opponents of this want the several thousand DEAD registered voters to continue voting. For years dead people have been voting in urban areas in order for a particular candidate to get elected. I remember in one precinct during a St. Louis city election that had more votes than registered voters.

So as others and I have said present a photo ID that is issued by the state you reside in to cast your vote.

I also agree everyone gets photographed, no veils, no hats, or other items that would hide an identity.

smartone
May 14, 2008 | 8:10 PM

I think it is time for photo ID. Tired of dead people voting, dogs, etc. It was proven fact in one community they had more votes than people.
It will not stop anyone from voting, and if they are poor, give them free photo ID, I would rather do that, then have unqualifed people voting, just to get their friends in office.

Chickenkiller read my blog
May 14, 2008 | 9:07 PM

Snoopydad - I like your idea of a photo ID being issued for someone who doesn't have one when the register to vote. However, let me throw some cold water on your idea.

The 'Motor Voter' Act (Federal Legislation) made registration possible at all kinds of different places than the Board of Election Commissioners. This would mean that photo/ID equipment would have to be present at every one of these locations. We've already spent a small fortune on new computerized voting machines because the people in Florida can't complete a ballot properly.....how much more of this crap must be government funded?

Get a drivers license or State ID card which the DOR has already offered to provide free of charge (and they will come to your house to do it) and be done with it.

snoopydad24 read my blog view my photos
May 14, 2008 | 10:20 PM

Chickenkiller I understand what you are saying but it can still be done at very little expense.

My wife's City and County Library card now has a photo on it the state can supply the library the background for the Voter ID card. The high school I teach in issues its own photo IDs (as do most other high schools). We also register 18 year olds to vote. Again the state can give us the background for a photo ID.

Plus you can even make it like the State Car Inspections where the people issuing the IDs have to use a fingerprint login in order to register voters. With the technology we have now we can account (or should be able to) for every voter.

SeniorCitizen view my photos
May 17, 2008 | 8:00 AM

I think it is a good idea - this way maybe all those people that have been dead for 30 years will not be able to vote. If the people that are voting numerous times under different names will have to have 50 ID's they just might get a little confused as to who they really are.

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I go back 78 years. I have seen the great depression, creation of social security, medicare and medicaid, several wars, creation of the Interstate Highway system, the resignation of President Richard Nixon whose greatest crime was defending his friends of whom only one served time and later became a television personality. The congress has remained stedfast in its duties (building bridges to nowhere, critizing the president and accomplishing little). Harry Truman's campaign was "Give me a congress I can work with".

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