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Tuesday's USA Today has an article about the new St. Louis slogan – “St. Lou Is Within Reach.”

The article says the brand aims to tie into the notion that St. Louis has exceptional attractions like sports teams, architecture, museums, and parks, but a lower cost of living and fewer hassles than some bigger cities.

The Convention & Visitors Bureau says the brand is meant to capture the essence of the city and define the St. Louis experience.

Do you think changing the slogan of the city will bring more tourists to the St. Louis area? Sound off!

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rosie read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 9:05 AM

no, what happened to perfectly centered and gate way to the west, why do they need a new one all the time. the slogan isent going to help the economy, thats the problem, and gas prices

Pooks read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 9:12 AM

No slogan will make someone come to any city. St Louis need to clean itself up and then they'll come. While we have many wonderful things to see here, most places are hard to find and in areas no one wants to be in after dark. Clean up the crime and the traffic and we'd have tourists up the wazoo.

jeepers4559 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 9:56 AM

Clean up crime and have more touristy things to do, make things more asthetically pleasing, and then you'll have tourists.Better restaurants, more events, those things bring tourists.

Seriously, for anyone that lives here, can you think of reasons why you would plunk down your hard earned cash to 'visit' this place? When you think 'Saint Louis', what do you think of?

I can't think of any reason to come here to vacation unless you are a diehard Cards fan. Not when there are other cities with far more places of interest to go to.

Truth be told, I'd even rather go to NOLA. Restaurants and jazz clubs. NYC? Shows, restaurants. San Francisco? Restuarants ad infinitum, climate, wine tasting, the redwoods. Los Angeles? Rodeo drive, beaches, restaurants. Seattle? The beauty of the Pacific Northwest.

Saint Louis? The Cards at Busch stadium.

I don't say that to be perjorative, I say that in a realistic manner. You have to build it, or have it before 'they' will come. Want them here for business? Then create a massive convention center with restaurants and hotels surrounding it. Give groups deals until the system gets on it's feet. Bring in entertainment that has a bit of a sophisticated edge (I'm talking symphony and ballet, not 'Meet Me at the Muni' where it's not exactly physically comfortable to attend.) Or Broadway shows by Broadway touring groups. Not just once in awhile, I'm talking a LOT of this.

St Louis still debates things like 'we had a fair, it was successful, think that we shoudl do it again?' We are very early in the tourist game, from my

jeepers4559 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 9:57 AM

point of view. And no slogan is going to make that less true.

People have to have a reason to come in order to come. Give them reasons, they will come.

ca-for-neb-in-mo read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 10:05 AM

yeah, I wonder how much it costs to have people sit around and "develop" a slogan. maybe they should use that money for something else. like free appetizers on every street corner. that would bring tourists.

momof5 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 10:43 AM

Totally agree with Jeepers....We need reasons to go to the city! Other than ballgames and concerts, theres nothing more there that interest us!

kadas read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 10:52 AM

Stop!!! Does this mean no more GATEWAY TO THE WEST?????? I don't like that if that is the case.

I don't think slogans are what brings in the people. What you hear in the news about St Louis and the sorrounding communities will attract or scare people away from tourism or relocating to the Greater St. Louis Area.

superjaybrd read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 10:53 AM

The only slogan that would make me want to visit ANY city would be "Visit ________, where everything's FREE".

memobo read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 10:54 AM

I can't think of one slogan for any of the places I've visited. I've never travelled based on a slogan.
To me St. Louis has several attractions. The Arch, Zoo, Botanical Gardens, Old buildings, The Fox, The Muny, Jewel Box.
I've never been one to travel to a CITY for whatever they offer. I take advantage of the sites when I'm there but the CITY itself has never been my destination.

I do believe St. Louis would benefit if we cleaned up the crime and gangsta aura. Another BIG improvement would be holding landlords and the city responsible for all the delapidated buildings.

memobo read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 10:57 AM

I can't think of one slogan for any of the places I've visited. I've never travelled based on a slogan.
To me St. Louis has several attractions. The Arch, Zoo, Botanical Gardens, Old buildings, The Fox, The Muny, Jewel Box.
I've never been one to travel to a CITY for whatever they offer. I take advantage of the sites when I'm there but the CITY itself has never been my destination.

I do believe St. Louis would benefit if we cleaned up the crime and gangsta aura. Another BIG improvement would be holding landlords and the city responsible for all the delapidated buildings.

SLCaldwell read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 11:06 AM

Gangsta??? LMAO.... it may be GHETTO, but that's about it. "It's ghetto, yet country all at the same time." That's a good slogan.

One thing about the new slogan that made me laugh. It said STL was "diverse" HUH?? What saint louis are they talking about, cause it sure can't be this one.

Tiggerme68 read my blog
Nov 6, 2007 | 11:14 AM

I agree. I've never been to any city based on the slogan. Couldn't even tell you what their slogans are/were. This new one sounds pretty stupid to me.

SLCaldwell...ROFL I like yours..I'll have to use that one on family when they come to visit.

Cuteypops read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 12:50 PM

No there is no sloggan that could make me go to another state.

Stlouisgreen read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 1:42 PM

A slogan is a slogan. It is not, I repeat, is not a magic tourist producing encantation that will bring us millions of dollars. We can have a slogan that says "St. Louis, kinda smells like Erie Pennsylvania but with more to do" and even though it's negitive with the right coverage people would come... having the slogan is only the first step in creating an awareness of the existance the next step is to tell people that what we have to offer is something that they want. Show people the visions that we want them to have or experiance and tell them how. Then we need to push for major industry dollars to come in and spend here... conventions, shows, sporting events all of these should be high on the list of things that we try to get. Olympics, Superbowl, PGA golf tournaments... you get the point.

jeanette read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2007 | 1:57 PM

Well ot may bring a few in to try and see the silly people who made up the slogan and who approved it.In others words laugh at St.Louis more then they usually do.I don't really py attention to slogan's.If I wanna go I go slogan or not..

bcreath
Nov 6, 2007 | 3:31 PM

Positioning St. Louis.

Well, St. Louis, we have a new tagline. According to a recent article on this topic, “St. Louis hopes to brand itself as a distinctive tourist destination with a new logo and a slogan that is a bit of a play on the city’s name. St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission president Kitty Ratcliffe said the shimmering Gateway Arch is the symbol most identified with the city and has worldwide recognition.”

And so, the following “brand” (their term, not ours) was launched last week.

Ah, another committee-born tagline. Offensive to no one except those who can think.

It is especially curious that this innocuous little slogan is posed as a new brand. Huh? This is the core essence of all this city is and all that it aspires to be? Another sad case of those who think a brand is nothing more than a tagline and new logo.

Perhaps the parenthetical afterthought should read:

St. Lou is…all within reach (because honestly, there’s nothing really that interesting to keep you here very long, anyway, is there?)

How about: St. Louis. We exist. (The region can credibly support this, don’t you?)

We know that supporters of this effort will retaliate with: “You’re not reading it properly, it’s about all that we have HERE within reach.” Sorry. For a city that needs a position, and has yet to articulate one, my read is the one that most people will have. We agree that if this were New York or LA, you might have a point. But it’s not.

Rather than reaching for our core uniqueness, this idea is based on a 'second-fiddle' mentality. One ad in the associ

bcreath
Nov 6, 2007 | 3:33 PM

Positioning St. Louis (part two)

...ated campaign even reads: "Because Central Park is 960 miles away."

Damn, I was looking forward to a carriage ride this evening, too.

In the press release announcing this bit of vanilla, a spokesperson said, “with a destination brand, it’s difficult to find one that everyone agrees on, and that the key to successful efforts like ‘I Love New York’ or ‘Virginia is for Lovers’ is that those brands were used consistently, even if not everyone loved them at first.”

Pardon our editorial, but when Martin & Woltz (later the Martin Agency) developed “Viginia is for Lovers” in 1969, the agency was out to create an emotional connection, founded in the language and attitude of the day. (Love Story, The Summer of Love, Love Theme from Romeo and Juliet…you get the point.)

The original story launching our proud new tagline even referred to it as “emotional.” We’ll, it certainly evoked emotion in us, though we suspect not the kind that was intended.

This is a fantastic city (and county). And we are sick and tired of this chip-on-our-shoulder, we’re-not-that-good, there’s-something-better-out-there-somewhere, the-only-thing-we-have-is-being-in-the-middle-of-the-co
untry, mentality. We are successfully melding Midwestern values with modern thinking and we have the growing region to prove it.

Better positioning is right under our nose (or should I say, all within reach) and we refuse to embrace it. We really are better than this. Why are we afraid to show it?

Next time, we suggest a call to Cohesion.

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scrollhut
Nov 8, 2007 | 9:03 PM

I live in a small community of 3,000 + or - a few and we don't have a slogan but still get visitors from all over the world...

jeepers4559 read my blog view my photos
Nov 9, 2007 | 7:17 AM

"This is a fantastic city (and county). And we are sick and tired of this chip-on-our-shoulder, we’re-not-that-good, there’s-something-better-out-there-somewhere, the-only-thing-we-have-is-being-in-the-middle-of-the-co

untry, mentality. We are successfully melding Midwestern values with modern thinking and we have the growing region to prove it."


There is a huge difference between 'why would you want to live in Saint Louis' and 'why would you want to vacation in Saint Louis'.

Emotionally, I can think of quite a few reasons why living in Saint Louis is an advantage compared to other large cities with more of a tourist draw. Most especially if you have children. STL county is a great place to raise a family. No doubt about it.

That being said, what you're referring to doesn't translate into being a huge tourist draw.

People have a finite amount of cash to spend upon tourism. When tourists come, they have to have something to DO. Responding to that as a city shouldn't be an emotional one, but a practical one.

If you build it, they WILL come. If you don't have it, they'll go somewhere else. It's really that simple.

One doesn't have to market STL as a place to vacation. We could market ourselves as a better place to LIVE, which it already is. Without changing a single thing about the place, we could sell that.

"Come home to Saint Louis...a great place to live and work."

But tourism and conventions? Ya gotta have the 'stuff'. Good hotels, good restaurants, and activities so that conventioneers and tourists are motivated to linger and drop so

jeepers4559 read my blog view my photos
Nov 9, 2007 | 7:19 AM

some of their cash before they leave.

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