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Sandy,

I personally think this girl should work do some work for the other family. What would be worse to have the girl that beat your daughter up working community service for you not the city. What would be more humilating is to be seen helping out the family you so much destroyed.

Parents are working longer hours to make sure mends meet, and parents can not be there all the time and you can not blame the parent every time a child does something bad. These girls were old enough to know between right and wrong and they need to be held responsible. That is the probably today too.. no one wants to held responsible for their wrong doings.

And today most kids are text messagine, myspace, and they are talking to each other face to face anymore.. One misread text can lead into a rival of hurt.

For example: I had a 15 year old text me one night by mistake. Had to do with some dance. I texted her back saying this is not Don ( but I text Down by mistake ) and you have the wrong number. This girl texted me 5 other times telling me off until I finally texted her this: Listen little girl I am a 38 mother of 4 you have the wrong number and you have no right getting lippy with me...I want to talk to your mom...she never texted me again.

So, one mis-typed word can cause a blow up with any teenager thru a cell phone and text.

In our days we got spankings...not ones that will bruise us and every day, but enough to remember you will never do that again. My Granny was a tough old cookie and I love her ( rest her soul )

This kids if they want to play adult

When I was a teenage a friend and I use to prank call these one boys because my friend really like one of the brother. Off and on for a year we would call, and well it stopped.

I woke up one Saturday morning to my mom talking to this lady and while I was there I was getting this look of death maybe approaching fast. Next thing my mom hands me the phone and I am talking to the mother of these boys. OMG did I feel aweful. My friend blamed it all on me that is was my fault. I apologized to this mother but I felt so bad afterwards. Before of the stress I put on that family I felt so guilty my parents made me go to their home one day and help with yard work. I felt really stupid being there and which made me feel even worse.. But, by time the day was rolling to an end I really respected this punshiment for I learned my lesson..but sometime this is what these children need today, is a punshiment balance from the families together rather than the officals....they will learn

These girls had better get jail time... If not then we will be sending the wrong message to our kids......

Hi there, Sandy. This whole thing is so disturbing. I have 16 and 18 year old girls and I could not imagine having one of them hurt like that. Nor could I imagine my girls doing the hurting.

I am short on time, so I am going to paste my comment from another blog.
Well something, somewhere got all these girls all screwed up. They thought they could beat this girl, post it for the world to see and get away with it?

Well, I have teenage girls myself and I know that you can't hold their hands to keep them in line 24 hours a day. At some point they have to be responsible for their own actions.

However, in this case I have to say that the parents have some responsibility. Obviously these girls THOUGHT they were going to get away with this, otherwise they would not have been so blatant about recording it!

Somehow they got the message that there would not be any REAL consequences for their actions, that it would be "no big deal". In my opinion, that message could only have come from the parents.

Isn't that funny how we took corporal punishment out of schools, made spanking (NOT BEATING!) a crime and then wonder what on earth is going on in this world where kids behave that way! Disrespectful, foul mouthed kids running around backtalking parents, threatening teachers, shooting each other and they all know nothing serious is going to happen. They might get suspended, but that's a day off school. Who keeps an eye on them when mom and/or dad are at work? No one. They are free to run the streets, watch TV or play on the computer. Send them to counseling to find out what

Hi Sandy, I have four children and check everything including their email. I set up their passwords so I won't even have to ask for them. I don't know what the answers are for this group of girls, but I do see that things are continually getting worse. It's sad because even if we raise our children to be awesome people, there's so many other kids being raised otherwise, that one of our kids could end up a victim too. It seems inevitable now. Something has got to change. Today, here and now.

Hello Sandy....some kids don't care about anything. These kids on the video would beat up their own mother if Myspace or YouTube would allow the video.

Here are the problems I have found. These are kids destined to be in prison or a future filled with many arrests. The online video services need to censor such behavior and not allow it online at all. They should be held responsible also.

And lastly, what type of parents would raise such a child - uh um - poured from the same mold. Society (us) need to be strong when seeing these types of people in our communities. When you read bad behavior don't sit back and allow things to happen, take action!

Apparently you can see tons of this type of stuff in myspace all the time.
Fighting, sex talk, you name it.

If your kids have access to Myspace they may be looking at this stuff and you may not even realize it.

Perky - I agree with you.
Speedy - bad doesnt always come from bad and good doesnt always come from good. It that was true, we would reserve a cell for the babies that are created out of violent acts, and children of criminals, druggies, pervs, etc.
As for Victoria, she has some responsibility. She became the target when she talked *h*t on the Internet. The Internet is viewed by all the kids and what is posted there is talked about and spread around for weeks and may not end until something is done. Someone who is a target of verbal abuse can be driven to suicide - remember Megan? Any way we have said loud and clear that verbal insults are as painful and sometimes worse than physical harm. Have you read how creative they can be with their words? I have and my jaw dropped. Bomb threats, words I cant print and the most vile acts described about the person. Talking *h*t is not just your a .... these days, its I saw you and your dad.... or your bro and moth and your body parts are... and so on. Some have been friends and will have pics they can distort and post about that person. You have no idea till you've read/seen some of them. I am courious if any of the posts were kept and how long the insults were going back and forth.

Sandy - anyone get a copy of what Victoria said in her "talking ****" postings? I am curious why in this case words are not considered harassment or instigation. As for these kids behaving this way, it’s really the norm. I would bet the girls decided to pay Victoria back for her verbal harassment – harassment that prob went on for a while, was seen by all the school kids and was repeated and grew with each repetition. Seems like they decided to film it to show others what happens to people who harass and it went further than planned. Reason I think this is the girls did it in their house, no weapons, and they were planning to publicize it. You don’t publicize something you think you are going to go to jail for. If you intend real harm, you have a weapon, and you don’t do it where mom or dad can come in and stop it at anytime. Another thing, what about the fact that there is gang mentality here. Peer pressure to stand up for yourself. What is Victoria’s history? Is she just a sweet kid that said one thing about another once in anger or is she one of those who post constant vicious things in order to get a reaction from whoever she is after?

As for the reason for this - What do we do when we see, hear, or feel we’ve been insulted or offended? We get revenge in the way of firing or suing, so why is it so unbelievable that kids feel they deserve some validation of their hurt and expect to see punishment done to those who insult or offend them? .. Especially when the act is in front of the most important people to them – the entire teen population.

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SheriStl72 - I agree with you and think the idea of words being harmful is a crock. But kids dont see that and they are supported in that belief everytime the adults cry to have someone fired for saying a word we consider upseting. And the words do not even have to be specifically targeting someone in front of the people that are important to their world. They just have to be used out loud and be considered offensive and we scream for revenge. Its nuts, but not to a kid who must face others day in and day out and are at the age where what people say is their whole world. My point is that we encourage this behavior in a sense and need to realize it so we can stop it. We need to redefine harm to physical harm and do away with clasifying verbal insults as harm.