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I keep hearing John McCain referred to as a war hero. Why, exactly, is he a war hero? Don't get me wrong. I have a ton of respect for the guy for his service and toughing it through his years as a POW, but I am confused on how that makes him a hero. What did he do that was heroic? As far as I know, he was piloting a plane, got shot down and captured, and was then released.

Again, I am not trying to knock the guy, I am just tired of the word "hero" being thrown around so much. To me, the title of hero should be reserved for very few, people who risk thier lives for others. I remember the story about the girl who was captured in Iraq (or Afghanistan, can't remember which) and when our special forces rescued her, she was praised as a hero. She even came out and said she wasn't a hero. She was captured. The people who rescued her were the heroes.

Fire men are heroes. That dude who jumped over the guy on the subway tracks as the train flew over him is a hero. John McCain. . . is he a hero? I would say his service was a bit heroic maybe, but to call him a hero seems a bit of an overstatement.

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bubba-right-wing read my blog view my photos
Jul 2, 2008 | 4:32 PM

Republicans see vets as war heroes. Democrats see the mother of 20 kids on welfare, food stamps, and every government program you can imagine, and that person is their hero. So I heard.

Mutatis-Mutandis read my blog
Jul 2, 2008 | 5:39 PM

I didn't know my dog's vet was a wat hero. What a multi-talented person.

And why is it that you can comment on everyone's blogs, but don't let people comment on the idiotic rants you post, bubba?

streetwalker read my blog
Jul 2, 2008 | 5:51 PM

John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1
According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."2
His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."4
The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.5
He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.6
Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."7
McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his c

Mutatis-Mutandis read my blog
Jul 2, 2008 | 6:02 PM

You were cut off streetwalker. I would love to hear the rest.

bubba-right-wing read my blog view my photos
Jul 2, 2008 | 7:36 PM

All you need to do is delete one of my posts and as long as I see you did delete it I promise to never return. Simple and that is all it takes.

bubba-right-wing read my blog view my photos
Jul 2, 2008 | 7:47 PM

By the way there are quite a few blogs I no longer ever go to so do not be shy. I can take it.

Mutatis-Mutandis read my blog
Jul 2, 2008 | 10:02 PM

Oh, bubba, as much as you grate on my nerves, it would be an empty place without your presence.

becker read my blog
Jul 2, 2008 | 10:24 PM

To me a hero is one that saves the lives of others.

Cutter read my blog
Jul 3, 2008 | 5:25 AM

Hero is used way too often . Is McCain a hero ? I,m not so sure in the my way of thinking . This I do beleive anyone that joins our military and protects our freedom . Is a person of honor .
I,m not a big McCAIN fan . But I do like his stand opposing the murder of unborn childern . Its not a choice , ITS MURDER for BIRTH CONTROL .

Obama best buddy and money man , just got convected on 16 of 25 counts . For buying political influence .

My point , name a poor Senator or Congress person ?

jsage read my blog
Jul 3, 2008 | 7:06 AM

Stellwalker What key civil rights bill that didn't contain more gov spending did he vote against? The childrens health care bill was a bad bill as is the one to punish people who bought a home and are making payments by giving those who arn't there tax money. What is wrong with being stong on national defense? Also the only problem I have with the rich is that I am not one of them.

Mutatis-Mutandis read my blog
Jul 3, 2008 | 7:56 AM

How was the children's health care bill a bad bill?

becker read my blog
Jul 3, 2008 | 8:45 AM

The kids are our future, I don't see how that bill could be bad

Legolas read my blog view my photos
Jul 3, 2008 | 9:35 AM

McCain served his country became a prisoner for 5 years and refused to be let out of the Hotel Hanoi as a political gesture by the commies because his dad was an Admiral. McCain refused and that is reason enough...

Legolas read my blog view my photos
Jul 3, 2008 | 11:57 AM

Quod Erat Demonstrandum "that which has been demonstrated"....and Mutatis-Mutandis "that needing to be changed"...both point to McCain...President McCain...that is...(hoping my latin is not too rusty)....

Stlouisgreen read my blog view my photos
Jul 3, 2008 | 12:31 PM

having refused to be released from captivity does not make McCain a hero. If anything it makes him stupid. A hero would have gotten out gotten armed and liberated the others. Instead he chose to make a political statment and stay caged like a rat. The fact of the matter is (if there realy is an arguement to be made) that John McCain was and is a bully. He fought in a war that was unnessary and caused 58226 American Servicemen to lose their life and another 150,000+ to suffer needlesly. For those who wish to argue the point let me point out that it was the french who origanly were "at war" with the vietnamese over "land rights" and freedom. the north vietnamese wanted it the french didn't. we went to advise and train the SVA and french. in the late 50's when the french left we should have too. yet we stayed because we "had to stop those commies from taking over the world." Really come on how serious can you be... a "third world back water country" taking over the world. Ummmm it's happened anyway... take a look at your television, your microwave your computer, your pants, your shoes... they are all made in China, thailand, cambodia, korea, japan the phillipines, and various other "third world back waters" the fact is John McCain was not defending the US it was defending its economic interests he was fighting in a war we did not belong in and he did it all of his own free will. John McCain was and is a bully. prove me wrong with out conjecture. His track record speaks for itself.

jsage read my blog
Jul 3, 2008 | 1:33 PM

The child health care bill was bad because it setup socilized substandard health care for our children. Stlouisgreen that is funny that you say by serving your country you are a bully. I served in Nam and I don't think of myself as a bully. You history on Nam is also wrong yes the whole country fought the French. The country divided when the south setup a goverment that supported capitalism and the north setup one that was socialist. We went in when the north tried to overthrow the goverment of the south, The war would have been shorter for the US if it wasn't for the peace movement. The north after a massive defeat at Tet decided that because of the movement in the US they could outlast us. During our time there we trained the ARVN's to the point that they could defend there country themself with only equipment and financial help from the US. But when the dem controled congress broke our agreement with the South it fell to the better equiped and funded North. I blame the peace movement for the deaths of my friends that where killed over there. They were all Killed after TeT. I also think you can blame the US congress and the peace movement for the over 500,000 killed by the north when they took control. If we had kept our word in Nam I don't think the our foes would think of us as weak and would have attacked us or those we have defense treaties with.Defending the economic interest of the US is defending the US

ralphieboi1976 read my blog
Jul 3, 2008 | 3:21 PM

Let's Face it neither one of them are "Heros" Just 2 over paid dummies that made it to their position. Like I said when Little Bush ran for Pres.

1. Look what they have done for their states they have been representing.

2. Do they have interests that can sway their judgement..ie own a couple of oil fields or a shareholder in an arms company and so forth?

I believe a hero stands for others, protects others and puts themselves in harms way by doing so. Fights for the justice of all, not the chosen few.

jsage read my blog
Jul 3, 2008 | 4:14 PM

raphieboi McCain put himself in harms way by flying missions over North Vietnam. By doing that he helped protect the ground troops the US had in the south. That seems to meet your standard for being Hero.

PSylvester20 read my blog
Jul 3, 2008 | 7:37 PM

First of all, if the majority of voters valued military service as a qualification for president, we wouldn't have elected the last two draft-dodging clowns! President Dole would have finished up his second term in 2004.
Second, I think we tend to throw the word "hero" around a little too freely. Police, fire fighters, and military personnel are all doing a job. They accept the level of risk associated with their jobs, and they collect a pay check for it. I think "brave" is a much more appropriate term. "Hero" should be reserved for the guy who throws himself on a grenade.

SeniorCitizen view my photos
Jul 3, 2008 | 8:02 PM

The other portion of that health care bill was the Dems loaded it full of pork fat that had NOTHING to do with the health bill and it should have been voted down since the Dems refused to take off the money to build the road that goes no where. Then the Dems said Bush will not support the kids - it was the Dems - not Bush.
I consider McCain a hero - he was a POW and it has been reported that he could have left BUT HE WAS THE RANKING OFFICER AND STAYED UNTIL ALL OF HIS MEN COULD LEAVE.
Stlouisgreen you are the stupid one. You must never have served in the service and what book did you dig up that BOOGEDY. Just because BO has no knowledge of what the troops function are is no reason to question McCain's patriotic endeavors. This is a smear tactic that won't hold water. BO has no patriotic loyalty - neither does his wife. BO holds his body part that he loves most and not his heart and his wife has nothing to be proud of in America. To address the issue of 'HOLIDAYS" give me a break - is that the most important issue you could think of? This is so minuet compared to the REAL ISSUES that currently are looming over America. The people that are book smart had better find out in a hurry - all fairy tales do not end "they lived happily ever after" and get out into the REAL WORLD and find out what is going on. Look at ISSUES and lets all face it BO does not have any - even his senate record for voting sucks. His only real issues are that he worked hard for the slum lord, got lots of money from him, and supports a preacher that uses GOD's name in vain and preaches racial

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