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After the horrible death of Ryan Hummert this morning - how can we stop this from ever happening again? At least police officers have guns to defend themselves - what do you think: Should firefighters wear bullet proof vests?
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Biker2Max read my blog
Jul 21, 2008 | 2:42 PM

ExecMom just blogged on this a few hours ago..

http://community.myfoxstl.com/blogs/Executivemom/2008/0
7/21/Do_Emergency_Responders_All_Need_Bullet_Proof_Vest
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Sparkleplenty read my blog
Jul 21, 2008 | 3:04 PM

Good idea, but additional layers to make them hot unfortunately.

Flaglady read my blog view my photos
Jul 21, 2008 | 3:44 PM

It is a crying shame anyone has to ask this question. Another layer and the added weight might do more harm than good. Was today unique or is this something firefighters face on a regular basis.

theredmenace view my photos
Jul 21, 2008 | 3:51 PM

I was watching the Fox 2 news this AM around 7:30 when the reprter John Brown was on location in Maplewood. John went on to report that he was seeing the SWAT team move into position. John, next time - you might get shot. What on God's green earth are you doing giving away that type of information when the perpetrator may be watching TV and now know they're coming to get him? Your job is to report the news not make it. That sort of disclosure truly is a disservice to everyone.
Act responsibly in the future - or don't act at all.

gsells read my blog
Jul 21, 2008 | 4:16 PM

John was three blocks from the house. He didn't have access to any kind of movement that would have put officers in danger. He physically had no way of seeing anything that would have been tactically advantageous to a suspect. John's been around long enough to know what he can talk about and what he can't. I, for one, thought he did a great job under difficult circumstances.

NiceGuyWestCounty read my blog
Jul 21, 2008 | 4:18 PM

Let me simply express my appreciation to John and Margie for their OUTSTANDING coverage this morning. I know it was a hard morning for both of you, but as always, you were poised, professional, well informed, and kept your viewers up to date.

My compliments to Kevin and April for their fine field work as well. You can always count on the fine reporters at FOX 2 to have their facts! Kevin was reporting during the 11 a.m. broadcast that the police officer was treated and released from the hospital. An hour later on Channel 5 they were still reporting that the police officer was being treated and they were unable to obtain any more information regarding his condition. Good job, Kevin!

And finally, to Tim Ezell...for someone who is accustomed to covering the "lighter" side of the news, you did an outstanding job working the field. I was very impressed with you on the air this mroning. I'd love to see more of his reporting skills in the future. Better yet, let's see Tim at the anchor desk sometime soon.

Again, my thanks to everyone at FOX 2 for keeping your viewers "in the know" as always.

mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Jul 21, 2008 | 4:29 PM

It would seem as such..... It seems that more and more take out their frustrations on the innocent..... It's a trend that is getting scary..... What happened to the safe streets....

Adrian5270 view my photos
Jul 21, 2008 | 6:16 PM

First of all there is no such thing as a bullet proof vest. It's called body armor and there is no guarantee that it will stop any round. But I think it's a good idea that firefighters should start wearing them.

StateStreetHeaven
Jul 21, 2008 | 7:37 PM

St. Louis City FF's have had 'em for years & they are worn when the need is perceived, but you could not have predicted this ever happening.

What kind of world do we live in when you need your firemen to wear body armor everyday?

Speedy62269 read my blog
Jul 21, 2008 | 10:26 PM

Yeah thanks Biker for that blog site.

TTWISTTED read my blog view my photos
Jul 22, 2008 | 12:12 AM

Are you serious? This is a terrible thing that happened, but it could have been anyone. This man just decided that his victims would be emergency responders. It could have been a pizza delivery person, cable guy, taxi driver, and so on. So do we need all of them wearing vests also?? Where do we stop? Protecting everyone at all times is not possible and there will always be scum that are messed up in the head. As far as police having guns to defend themselves... I do believe that 2 officers were shot also. Just having a gun does not make a difference when you are ambushed. This coward attacked them before they even knew that there could be a problem. Slapping vests on everyone is not the answer.

Chickenkiller read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 12:45 AM

Flaglady - I agree, its sad that we have to ask this question.

Based on circumstances, the vests should be made available to those firefighters who request them, however use should not be mandatory. Firefighters have enough other equipment they need without further hampering their movements and ability to function at a fire site.

That said, even if they were available on an 'on-request' basis, who would have worn one to a call in this neighborhood that was considered to be relatively safe.

checkersfire read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 7:59 AM

if the reporter was on scene at 730, the guy had probably already killed himself by that time, the house was on fire by then. bullet proof vests are a decent idea, but they are hot, still not 100 percent effective. in this case, i heard he was shot in the head, the vest wouldn't have helped. this is one of those freak things that happened. my best wishes and prayers goes out to the families of those shot. it's a sad day when you are a ff and have to worry about being shot at. i guess god needed another ff/medic in heaven with him, for him to take ryan at such a young age. he will be missed. some of you might think this is cold, but i hope the ass clown that did the shooting died a horrific, painful death for what he did. i hope he didn't go quick!!!!!!!

checkersfire read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 8:02 AM

to chickenkiller: there's no such thing as a "safe" neighborhood anymore! i think those days are gone.

checkersfire read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 8:05 AM

as ff's, emt's and medics it's drilled into your head "scene safety", who could have forseen this though? when you roll up to a fire, your concerned with maybe the car or truck exploding or something like that, nobody would dream of being shot at. it could have been anyone one of us repsonders, i don't know how many calls i've rolled up to like this, i would have NEVER thought of someone taking a shot at us! it's becoming a sad, sad world these days.

Speedy62269 read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 8:33 AM

Yeah there are safe neighborhoods still you just have to be able to afford to live in them. We are fortunate to live on a street with only about 20 homes and it's a dead end street.

These types of streets are not high crime areas unless you have the domestic issue at hand. So, checkersfire's comment about no neighborhood is safe could apply to that being domestic but there are many where criminals steer from.

momedic
Jul 22, 2008 | 11:00 AM

How about stiffer gun control laws? Canada may be a good example.

Sparkleplenty read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 5:23 PM

Although I think theredmenace has a good point about any reporter at any crime scene, I doubt anyone would do it on purpose.

From what I heard of the reporting, law enforcement and FF kept moving the media back further and further. I assume the reasons were for safety, in giving everyone the benefit of the doubt.

But since I wasn't there, I am not one to judge. But it is a very good point theredmenace. It never crossed my mind at all, but you are right. A reporter could get hurt, but I think sometimes that is a risk they are willing to take.

In giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, I think most reporters are trying to get to the truth, although that is not always the case.

But it is a point well observed for the safety of any reporter/investigator/journalist worldwide.

I think sometimes people forget how connected we are via the media, and how immediate the communication can be.

Thank you.

Sparkleplenty read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 5:27 PM

I think also if I was in this reporter's shoes, my best response would be,

"Thank you sir, for the good lesson that you taught me. This valuable piece of advice could save my life someday."

anaconda-dan read my blog view my photos
Jul 22, 2008 | 10:18 PM

"Stiffer gun control laws"
Yeah, 'cause guys like that obey the law.
How 'bout we ban matches and lighters so people can't make fire too?

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