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by Cheetah from West St. Louis County

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I stole this headline from the online article I just read. If you're familiar with this story, what's your take on it? Is it doable? -- and given our current situation, is it feasble at all, much less within 10 years?

If you have not heard nor read this story yet -- here is the executive summary: Al Gore has issued a challenge to both presidential candidates to "produce every kilowatt of electricity through wind, sun and other Earth-friendly energy sources within 10 years"

As for my own thoughts:

[1] I commend Al Gore -- and no, to you right-wingers out there, I am not a Gore supporter nor a liberal nor a "drinker of the Kool-Aid" -- I am a fiscal conservative frankly, but I think and vote independently. For the record, just because a person is a member of the "other political party" doesn't rule out any smart suggestions and ideas they may make. Nor does it justify turning a deaf ear on said ideas -- but for those who do, well, it says a lot about their own biases and dare I say it, ignorance.

[2] Gore has the passion and ambition and clout to help turn that suggestion into an action plan -- and so I support that initiative. And frankly, I respect the fact he's making a public press conference out of it rather than doing what so many people do, whisper their ideas and hide behind the curtain, unwilling to take a public stand.  

[3] I'm all for this proposal but there's trillions of dollars in the status quo system -- oil production and utilization, etc. It's off the subject a tad, but even our processing plants -- converting corn into ethanol -- are operated by machinery that runs on fossil fuels! So, here we are investing billions of dollars in the use of corn to produce fuel -- yet the plants making that ethanol [which incidentally is supposed to be for the purpose of eliminating our reliance on oil] are using machines that use oil -- and so it seems to be yet another government subsidized scam [probably a result of earmarks].  Furthermore, in the process, the cost of corn is driven way up there -- making everything that uses corn more expensive; and corn is used in everything, which, um, makes everything we buy more costly. is it possible to use "wind, sun and other Earth-friendly energy sources" to operate these ethanol plants? I have no idea. 

[4] The best part of Gore's very bold challenge -- in my opinion -- is the fact that he makes the same assertion to both McCain and Obama. Making it clear he's not siding with one or the other based on a specific party affiliation. He's indirectly asserting that whichever candidate represents the best choice for getting us to that goal, marks the best choice for the American voter. After all, the 1st 4 years of a 10-year plan are the most important years; and chances are the candidate will be office for 8 years. 

[5] There's so much talk about this and that being "bi-partisan" that I hate hearing the word. But in this case, Gore is 100% bi-partisan. I think that carries alot of weight.

[6] But I tend to be a realist -- not a dreamer -- and so I am skeptical -- is this truly an achievable outcome? It seems unlikely. Sure, when JFK made the bold challenge about "making it to the moon"  that probably triggered a similar amount of skepticism among the public. But what's different about this [challenge from Gore], is that this country is already hooked and drunk on fossil fuels. In the 1960s the whole rocket science industry was non-existent! -- and so the point is, it was easier to achieve that bold goal to reach the moon because, from day 1, nothing else existed in that realm; and so they avoided having to re-build, re-engineer, re-wire, re-configurate and re-work everything. They got to start from scratch and could focus 100% of their energies and money on designing and building things according to the way they needed them to be.

That is not the case with U.S. energy goals! 

Hell, we are as hooked on fossil fuel energy production as a crack addict is hooked on crack. And to move in the direction called for -- be to protect what's left of the environment in these capacities, or for national defense and terrorism risk prevention or mitigation --requires a comprehensive re-engineering of all systems and plants and products. And to engineer -- and implement -- a whole new way of doing things takes everyone being on the same page -- and it takes exponential cooperation from everyone. I just don't see that happening. There is too much money and ego and need for control, for that to be realistic. But that's just my take on it.

 

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kkmmuurrpphhyy read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 1:08 PM

You make many fine points, Cheetah.

Fortunately we will increase drilling while simultaneously finding ways to decrease our demand for oil via hybrid vehicles, green construction, energy efficient appliances, etc. Unfortunately ten years is a long time to reap any benefits when we are hurting now.

As for Mr. Nobel Peace Prize, I tune him out when he starts blathering on. Owning multiple mansions and globe-trotting in private jet planes are not very green practices and I have a hard time embracing hypocrites. I admire those who practice what they preach.

I predict the rise of a brilliant inventor who will go down in the history books with the likes of Benjamin Franklin & Eli Whitney. Someone who will initiate an economic boom similar to that of the Bill Gates internet era all the while making our lives and our environment better by way of that one magnificent product that is affordable and easily adaptable for the average citizen.

Good post.

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 1:27 PM

The best part. While he made this speech, his entourage of limos and SUV's, sat out in the lot with the A/C on and the engines running. Don't want him to lose his comfortable edge.

kadas read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 10:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESxvY1tQHTo&eurl=http://
mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193345.php

Al Gore and his followers are a big farce. There is no global warming. We need to keep our enviroment clean. Al Gore and his groupies need to practice what they preach.

Chickenkiller read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 1:21 AM

I just looked on the bottom of the original blog for the sponsor. "This blog brought to you by the Algroe Carbon Credit Trading Company"

Wasn't it 10 years ago that some idiot (Danzen I think) was proclaiming that if we didn't do something immediately, the oceans would all be dead in 10 years. Kinda missed that call eh?

Cheetah read my blog
Jul 23, 2008 | 5:24 PM

kkmm: Thanks much -- you make good points yourself and I hope there is indeed, those enterprising, ambitious and intelligent folks who can make that happen. Having since learned more about Gore's challenge I have to admit I think I fell prey to a biased report. And I didn't know Gore lived the lavish lifestyle -- all of which is oil-based! I'm with you -- to hell with hypocrites.

dann: Good point! Just like the cops -- leave their police cars running while they are bs-ing or eating corndogs and donuts in QT

kadas: honestly, I have no idea if there is GW or not. My take is this, how could so many scientists be wrong about it? There is evidence the ice caps ARE melting -- it's not hype. So, if there is no GW, are you saying the effects are due to something else? If so, what? Educate me -- because I honest to God don't know who to believe anymore

chick: you're one of those high-IQ folks who needs to dumd it down for people like me~! A compliment

Chickenkiller read my blog
Jul 24, 2008 | 10:06 PM

Lets try this......If Algore believed his own words (and that's a mighty big 'if') don't you think he'd be sitting at home and making his speeches over the internet (after all, he invented the internet, right?)

But no, he continues to fly in his private jet day after day. He continues to use motorcades of SUVs for ground transportation, all the while telling you that you need to get a Prius and take public transportation.

And, if you didn't know that Algore lived in a house that consumed some 20x the amount of energy that a normal household combined, you must have been sheltered. It's been all over the news.

And, here's why so many scientists say they 'believe' in global warming. They have to buy into the concept in order to keep their government grants rolling in. And if you want to get technical, most of these "scientists" are political scientists, and not meteorologists, palentologists, physicists and the sort who would actually have some degree of expertise in the matter.

Cheetah read my blog
Jul 25, 2008 | 12:43 PM

Me? Sheltered? Maybe. Watching the news is a luxury here lately. Can't seem to stay awake. But seriously, the statement -- "Algroe Carbon Credit Trading Company" -- is what threw me off; I didn't catch the joke "Algroe (Al gore)!"

I have seen only one of Al's homes -- and it was a fairly modest home on the west coast. I didn't know he had a mansion in Tennessee with its own airstrip, not unlike John Travolta's place in the same region. As for the zipping around on the private jet and the motorcade of SUVs, chalk it up to not having thought much about it -- after all, this is the standard; and the standard applies to everyone. They all have their jets and SUV and yachts and palatial estates that run on oil.

Then again, not everyone is speaking the Gore diatribe -- to end the addiction to oil. So I see your point and agree -- if Al Gore is hell-bent on talking the talk, he had better walk the same talk and if not, shut the hell up.

As for the scientists and the issue of GW, with all due respect, I don't buy that explanation. After all, the ice caps ARE melting -- and this is not a statement nor part of some grant application. It's factual, as evidenced by photographs and video of the polar ice caps and glaciers from previous decades compared to today -- entire glaciers are gone, others have receeded hundreds of yards. And the scientists writing in the journals that I read or scan when in some professional office are indeed PhD scientists, including geologists, physicists, meteorologists and others.

And they've earned PhDs from well-respected, accredited univer

Cheetah read my blog
Jul 25, 2008 | 12:43 PM

Many credible scientists report the planet is indeed warming -- and the seas are indeed rising from the melting polar ice caps and glaciers -- with 100% certainty including photographic and scientific evidence. They can attest it's occuring but are dumbfounded as to why it is occuring. And just because we may not know the why -- driving some outcome --doesn't mean the outcome is a fabrication. The same thing applies in medicine -- brilliant medical scientists and researchers are still clueless about the why [for many conditions and physiological processes] -- yet those conditions and processes are as real as it gets.

The liberals seize the opportunity to use it to their advantage -- but do they really care about the environment? It's debatable. And if they truly do care about the environment, do they care more about it than conservatives? That too is debatable.

Rural America is farm-central and farmers are not only relying on the environment for their livlihood, they live on the land and are as environment-focused as it gets -- and are they liberals? Hell no! They are conservatives, and are among the most conservative of conservatives.

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