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by Cheetah from West St. Louis County

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Yesterday's ultra-tragic nightmare on highway 40 drives home one key piece of common knowledge: One person acting irresponsibly can -- and often does -- cause exponentially serious -- if not grave -- consequences for everyone else but themselves. My heart goes out to every single one of those drivers forced into that horror -- and those who saw it happen. What an absolute horror for those drivers. 

Those people were just trying to get from one place to another. It's a lesson on how very, very, very quickly things -- thoughts, feelings, priorities, to-do lists, needs, goals and wants -- can change. I was nowhere near that scene -- and only learned of it very late in the evening last night -- and yet I will never forget those images.

Seeing that -- carnage -- is a harsh reminder we all face the same risk on a daily basis. It reminds every one of us of our own very close calls involving tractor-trailers -- what a state trooper [friend] calls "close encounters of the deadly kind" -- for some of us, close calls with careless truckers took us very close to certain death. 

I almost bought the farm a few years ago on I-44. Had a concrete barrier to my left and an 18-wheeler on my right taking the liberty of merging into my lane at 70mph -- and an SUV tailgating me. And I would bet that 7 of every 10 people taking the time to read this blog has had an encounter with an 18-wheeler -- not much different than this.

These drivers were -- and are -- not unlike you and me. All of them were doing what we all do on the roads in this region -- wasting gas while sitting in traffic -- and having been at that very spot on I-40, waiting in line to access 270, you're basically 100% unaware of what and where the danger is until it's too late. We all face that risk on all the highways and it's damn scary.

I know a half dozen big rig drivers and these guys like to talk -- and talk frankly. They're all good guys but the stories they tell are not-so-good -- nor reassuring -- revealing just how at-risk we can be when in their company on the highway. Some are cavalier -- the attitude about their own [reckless] driving is indifferent -- and they know they personally face minimal risk for mortality should their rig cause or be involved in a crash.

Police investigators only released a general statement that the trucker was "inattentive" -- and I would bet truckers do the same stupid -- and dangerous -- things while driving -- and driving at excessive speeds! -- that other motorists do (e.g., talking on a cell phone). Knowing a few male truck drivers, I'm aware they've other things in their cab that takes one's attention off the road. For example...

A portable urinal [container]. And as any man can attest, getting the zipper down -- and getting the other thing out and active -- requires both hands; and when a trucker has both hands off-the-wheel -- and their eyes are looking down rather than up, and on the road ahead -- it's more than just a tad dangerous.  

P.S. FYI:

There is legislation on the table -- in one or more states -- to require "computerized speed limitors" on 18-wheel tractor-trailers -- automatically preventing speeds in excess of a certain. Of course, the transporation industry and their lobbyists are fighting this. But I certainly favor it. What about you?

That said, speed is not the root issue here. Sure, speed does indeed kill; however, as any NASCAR -- or Formula 1 -- race event demonstrates, when attentive -- and well-rested and conditioned -- persons drive at very high speeds there is high risk but minimal [statistical] probability [for accidents or fatalities].

However, when inattentive drivers drive at excessive speeds both risk and probability for serious accidents [and fatalities] skyrockets. So, speed limitors are not the only thing needed for risk prevention. Here's another thing to bear in mind: there's a labor shortage in the trucking industry -- driver attrition is high and recruiting new drivers is tough today. Problem is, a trucking firm has to get the goods delivered to their customers -- and if they lack a sufficient supply of experienced drivers, it means the drivers that they do have available are going to be pushed to the max. Putting us at even more risk.

Plus, with a driver shortage you can guess what's happening -- more and more poorly qualified [inexperienced and poorly skilled] drivers of big rigs are hitting the roads -- and they're working longer hours per day. If you've ever driven for 12 continuous hours you're aware that after about the 10th continuous hour on the road, you tend to lose your focus and alertness and attentiveness. Factor in the fact they've near zero courtesy for other drivers on the road and you've a very dangerous situation. 

Looking at this truck in today's paper you'll see MINIMAL damage to its cab -- yet right in front of the truck lies a mess of mangled vehicles damaged beyond recognition. When you take into account the physics of such a crash it's a wonder "only two" persons were killed. The truck's mass is at least 1500 lbs and it's speed was 75mph at impact. That's an astronomically high amount of force production -- energy -- unleashed on those vehicles. I cannot fathom the sound nor the sight. Much less the experience.

Sadly, I don't see a resolution in sight. This same thing will happen again. The police do a fine job as is -- and they can't prevent nor control this situation. Our government can't help -- they're worthless -- period. Industry and its lobbying doesn't help -- heck it can be argued that industry plays a role in the problem. I guess we motorists must rely on hope -- and trust -- the truckers who are sharing the road are taking all necessary precautions to assure our safety. In other words, we're on our own when on the highways and byways.

What say you?

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SikUvTheRite read my blog
Jul 16, 2008 | 1:29 PM

We need to crack down on arrogant and negligent truck drivers just as hard as we have on drunk drivers. Period.

Until we get that religious fervor for preventing ALL accidents caused by ALL causes, and not just our present hangup on DWI, courtesy of the religious fanatics of MADD, we will accomplish nothing.

Right off the bat, the tone of news reporting and official law enforcement response needs to change. Why is it such a "horrible" and "senseless" tradegy when a drunk driver kills someone, yet when a truck driver does it is "just an accident". A trooper yesterday was quoted as saying the driver "...just ran over a few cars". "Just" ran over a few cars? Gee, if it were a DWI accident, I'm SURE the trooper's tone would have been much more condemning and judgemental "An IMPARIED driver killed two people".

Well, this truck driver was IMPAIRED, all right. Just not by the juice. Lack of concern for others or just plain incompetence and arrogance, but impaired none the less.

Yet, none of these truck drivers see a day in jail. I'm sure the same will be true here.

Oh, unless they find he had a beer can in the truck or they find he smoked pot two weeks ago - then SUDDENLY it will be a SERIOUS OFFENSE and maybe then he'll go to jail.

We're becoming more like Iraq and Iran everyday - our religious fervor against alcohol and immorality is becoming almost as fanatic as theirs, and it is clouding our judgement.

We need aggressive prosecution of ALL negligent causes of accidents. ALL of them.

jeanette read my blog view my photos
Jul 16, 2008 | 6:10 PM

I get cut off by regular traffic quicker then a big rig. I am not condoning what this guy did.He was on a cell phone as many people are now aday's even tho they aren't suppose to be. All driver's no matter what they drive need to pay attention to the road.On every road not just the interstate.
I heard horiffic accident from the new's people from the beginning.

ScreenNamesgalore read my blog view my photos
Jul 17, 2008 | 10:18 PM

Yeah, that was the word, cavalier.

vickiemay read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 12:05 AM

I am married to an over the road driver. (BIG RIG). We were as upset by this accident as anyone else, probably more so.. . it's true truckers are being pushed to limit. We have to pay bills and eat to. If deliveries are not on time ....regardless of weather, traffic, lack of sleep, lack of a meal, the company gets a penalty, thus passing it on to the driver, Whom I can say about my own man suffers the lose of pay. He WILL NOT DRIVE TIRED,HUNGRY OR IN BAD WEATHER, EXCEPT WITH EXTREME CAUTION.. So do not blame EVERY truck driver for the actions of this one VERY NEGLIGENT TRUCK DRIVER. I worry everyday while my husband is at work, Not because I know he is one of those inexperienced truck drivers,,, He has been doing it for 26 years''' It is because of every other driver on the road thinking ,"I've got a right to get where I'm going , screw that truck driver" .. Public opinion is truck drivers are good to follow , they have to make money,, they will spot the cops. That is what makes me worry about my husband .. He is not your front door ,He cannot stop on a dime. He is just like YOU going to work;; ONLY HE NEVER GETS THERE;;;;;

Thomas61 read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 6:08 AM

SikUvTheRite, as a truck driver, I am sorry that this accident has re-ignited the anti trucker fervor. It happens every time a truck is involved in an accident. Truck drivers are no different than anyone else out there driving around, we have our moments of inattentiveness, too. Now everyone is calling for tolled truck only lanes, keeping trucks in the right lane and so on. If and when that happens, you will be at the head of the line crying about how the prices at Wal-Mart have gone up. I have read blogs where people say get rid of trucks put everything on trains. For one thing, no offense, but the railroads do not have the capacity to haul all the added freight that trucks haul, not to mention the fact that I don't see any train tracks rolling thru the Galleria, Ladue or Chesterfield. So, all I can say is I am sorry to the families of the people who lost their lives, I hope it doesn't happen again, but I know it will. I think it should be mandatory that people who get a license have to ride with a trucker for a day, and see our world for what it is...

greyhrt read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 9:33 AM

Cheetah, well said. I agree with Jeanette too, maybe if everyone reread their Over the Road books and refreshed their memories we'd be safer!

IneedUrHelp read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 12:24 PM

Accidents can not be eliminated 100%. All accidents start with a moment of inattention. Eliminating Cell phone usage while driving wont eliminate all accidents. Besides whats the diff between a cell and CB? Never heard anything about banning CB's in trucks. I know truckers who talk constantly on them and you need one hand for the mike. And topping out the speed will create slower driving truckers, increase costs of goods, and prob make it easier to be less attentive for the driver since he wont even have to pay attention to the speed.

MIKE-FROM-IL read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 8:31 PM

What happened in St Louis was terrible. However lets not get on the truckers back so fast. These accidents and others just like them happen every year and involve every vehicle out there. JUST THIS WEEK IN ORLANDO A drive spilled his coffee and lost control of his SUV causing a 9 car accident and killing 3. In Seattle a man and wife were argueing they not only killed themselves but their vehicle ran over and killed to people walking down the street. People need to pay attention. cell phones should only be allowed to work when connected with a blue tooth. I can give you hundreds of examples of four wheelers and there irresponsible driving habits from women lifting their skirts up to distract the drivers. to cutting trucks off. To hitting their brakes for no reason and truck lanes are not the cure all they have them in Jersey and D.C/ Baltimore as well as in Chicago, L.A ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. Should this guy pay for what he did? ABsoulutely. But there are stupied people everywhere and not all of them drive trucks.

MIKE-FROM-IL read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 8:54 PM

This down on truckers stuff gets old. I f you are jealious about the carefree life. Just remember it's not what it appears most drivers won't last over the road 10yrs. And their are many sacrafices. It's bad when your kid comes up to you and says ive known you for ten years my whole life and shes 23 and your still married to her mother. To last in the over the road industry that long, going into every MAJOR CITY IN THIS COUNTY AND DEAL WITH EVERY FORM OF LOW LIFE AND WANNA BE SMART GUY and have your own authority you can have no accidents or speeding tickets insurance on a big truck with none of the above still runs $6000.00 a year. THIS INDUSTRY IF FULL OF ANAMALS. And I mean anamals. Dispatchers and brokers constantly calling wives and kid contantly calling. I am not making exuses for this guy. Rather explaining to those ignorant about this industry. Their is no glamore in driving a truck it's a hard job.

MIKE-FROM-IL read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 9:17 PM

I AM SORRY ABOUT THE GRAMMER AND MISSPELLED WORDS AND RUN TOGETHER SENTENCES I WORKED 70HRS THIS WEEK! HOW ABOUT YOU? HOW MANY DID YOU WORK? THAT'S ALL I CAN ADMIT TO WORKING. WALK IN MY SHOES AND FIND OUT HOW MAY HOURS I ACTUALLY DID WORK.

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MIKE-FROM-IL read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 10:24 PM

some of thse guys out here spent most of their lives working in other industries,we are in a poor economy in case you hav'nt heard. They train these guys in 2weeks tell them all kinds of lies and turn them lose in a truck. 80,000lbs of rolling steel and product 5sets of air brakes it takes a loaded trailer the length of a football field to stop on dry pavement, triple it on wet pavement, a lot of these truck drivers today don't even have a high school education. When I started the union controlled it and policed their own. n
Not anymore a lot of these companies includeing your st louis based carriers have a 200% turnover rate or more, All their looking for is meat in the seat. SOME OF THESE GUYS HAVE COME OUT OF HONEST INDUSTRIES, This is not one. From the top to the bottom these people are anamals in this industry. Brokers are thives, dispatchers are liers, owners are greedy. The fair labor standards act of 1938 does not apply to trucking. So why was he on the phone? Maybe his wife was on the phone complaining about his pay check and how was she going to pay for anything. Maybe he was an independent and some broker was trying to con him into taking a dollar a
mile load. Maybe his dispatcher was telling him he could'nt go home this weekend even though he had been out 4 weeks already. git it? got it good.




it on wet

MIKE-FROM-IL read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 11:05 PM

one other thing the government refuses to police companies, or brokers. Just drivers so when something like this happens it's the driver thats in trouble. Brokers have had their way in this indutry since before deregulation. Explain to me how some one with no more than a computer, fax machine, and telephone, can dictate shipping rates and take whatever they want out. I beleive in capitalizim, but under fair conditions they can't haul it, they don't own any equipment,they can go out of business tomarrow not pay you a dime and reopen under a different name. and they are under bidding carriers that can haul it. This industry is unbeliveable. I know this industry inside and out. So many dirty carriers there is one in st louis that was bribeing both ford and P&G TO GET LOADS THE GUY WAS GREASEING The transportation dept heads in these corp to get loads and he is still operateing. my suggestion is don't be so quick to blame the driver. If you knew this industry like I do. While yes he needs to be punished for what he has done. But so do thse other factions of this industry brokers and carriers.

MIKE-FROM-IL read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 11:31 PM

Their are bosnians that are running up to 6000mi a week totally illegal I ran into a guy in PA that showed me he was, thats illegal. He ran out of St Louis. Their are other carriers that lock themselves into their offices because they are fearfull. Why? cuz they know they are doing people wrong. And the government does nothing. Here we are in an election year and it looks like this democrat is going to get in which means more government. they can start by policing this industry. Democrats are suppose to be for the working guy we will see.

MIKE-FROM-IL read my blog view my photos
Jul 19, 2008 | 6:57 PM

I hope I shed some light on this industry for you! Granted there are a lot of brainless drivers,but they are over worked, over stressed, under payed, and way under appreciated. Unlike your job they have no one to complain to. If your being mistreated at your job you call OSHA. This is a modern day form of share cropping.

MIKE-FROM-IL read my blog view my photos
Jul 19, 2008 | 10:54 PM

It's your right to know who your shareing the road with. The media could run a story on turnover rates alone in this industry. Like I have said before, The media only tells you what they want you to know. This industry needs a lot of help. Here is a web site for you www.safer web.com click on safe stat module
the higher the number the worse the carrier. The carrier wants to blame the driver for his saftey stat score. But it's the carrier dictating where and what the driver does.

Cheetah read my blog
Jul 23, 2008 | 5:51 PM

Wow -- what a firestorm.

sik: Excellent correlations. You're right, it's about impairment irrelevant of the cause, because the risks and consequences are the same. DWI does seem to carry more weight than other issues even though we see more drivers doing other things that pose just as much risk, if not more.

jeanette: For the record, I totally agree! But here's the deal -- the one thing that makes big rigs so much more dangerous and deadly in a crash, is the fact they carry so much mass. If a car rear-ends a car, it is not going to "jump up" onto the trunk of the car and completely run over it -- like this big rig, nor will it continue to maintain its speed post-impact, so instead of running over 12 cars in a row -- including some SUVs -- a car will stop after hitting the one or two cars. That means far less risk for death among all cars in the vicinity. Whereas a big rig truck is carrying so much mass [weight] that, at any speed, it hits and destroys anything in its path. Comparing the force production of a big rig hiting a car at 75 mph is like a big rig getting hit by an army tank at 40 mph -- the tank would completely destroy the truck; and the driver of the tank would face scant risk for injury, let alone certain death.

That is my point to my dissertation -- not that big rig drivers are bad, nor all bad. Not all big rig drivers drive irresponsibly.

vickie: You're right. I made a generalization and that is flat out wrong -- I should have specified the fact this was one driver causing this at one time. I guess the accident drives home our fears when on th

Cheetah read my blog
Jul 23, 2008 | 6:18 PM

your points are all valid

thomas: Yep, can't do without trucks! Getting rid of the cars and drivers is the answer -- give us all biclycles or make us walk, and the oil crisis is history, as is the obesity epidemic

gry: Agreed -- we could all stand a refresher on OTR safety, as is we only have to endure one of those classes to avoid getting points on our license from a speeding ticket. Now that you mention it, it seems this should be mandatory for everyone every year or so.

Ineedurhelp: LMAO! That's original! And right on! Hmmm. Good point. P.S. I miss those CBs -- they were far more fun than a damn CP.


Mike: You're absolutely correct -- and I stand corrected. Every one of your points are well-said. I would bet you're right about female drivers teasing the truckers with their skirts and alot more, and yes drivers of cars are just as discourteous with big rigs as in reverse. And I'd think it's no secret trucking is no dream job! I'd not be able to do it, that's for certain -- I'll stick with my 65 to 80 hour per week desk job, thank you kindly!

"meat in the seat" -- not surprised, this is the not-so-new standard for all businesses in all industries -- it's greed and more greed and owners and executives sense of entitlement -- and scant if any watchdog group that can intervene.

unlike you, I don't know much -- okay, very very little -- about the industry and I find your insights and info very interesting. I am aware of the industry from a risk management perspective -- which is my field -- and this includes awareness that yes indeed, the companies push a

Cheetah read my blog
Jul 23, 2008 | 6:19 PM

yes indeed, the companies push and push the drivers, yet they do not do all that they could do -- and which doesn't really cost much money -- to maximize a trucker's efficacy and health when on and off the road. But doing "some extra stuff" for the employees and contractors, who are doing the driving, requires management's time -- and giving a damn, which they don't [frankly, in my jaded but realistic opinion].

I was not aware of brokers -- how does this work? are these folks contractors working for the buyer or the supplier or the trucking firm in the middle?

I appreciate your having taken the time and invested the mental energy to put all of this on my blog -- a 200% turnover rate blows my mind.

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